linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] move put_task_struct() reaping into a thread [Re: 2.6.18-rt1]

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Message-ID: <20060927091513.GC20395@elte.hu>
Date:	Wed, 27 Sep 2006 11:15:13 +0200
From:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
To:	Bill Huey <billh@...ppy.monkey.org>
Cc:	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	John Stultz <johnstul@...ibm.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ibm.com>,
	Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@...ibm.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] move put_task_struct() reaping into a thread [Re: 2.6.18-rt1]


* Bill Huey <billh@...ppy.monkey.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 10:57:12AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Bill Huey <billh@...ppy.monkey.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > Because the conversion of memory allocation routines like kmalloc and 
> > > kfree aren't safely callable within a preempt_disable critical section 
> > > since they were incompletely converted in the -rt. [...]
> > 
> > they were not 'incompletely converted' - they are /intentionally/ fully 
> > preemptible.
> 
> What I meant by "incompletely converted" is that the allocators could 
> be made more safe in non-preemptible scenarios under -rt. [...]

no, the -rt kernel intentionally does not do that and wont do that. 
There's lots of complex stuff going on within allocators, even in the 
GFP_ATOMIC path. We might be able to plug in more deterministic 
allocators (like SLOB), but even they must be fully preemptible. In the 
-rt kernel there's basically no compromise on the "do as little as 
possible in non-preemptible regions" stance.

	Ingo
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