linux-kernel - Re: Announce: gcc bogus warning repository

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Message-ID: <451FF8ED.9080507@garzik.org>
Date:	Sun, 01 Oct 2006 13:20:45 -0400
From:	Jeff Garzik <jeff@...zik.org>
To:	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@...otime.net>
CC:	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...l.org>
Subject: Re: Announce: gcc bogus warning repository

Randy Dunlap wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 09:44:55 -0400 Jeff Garzik wrote:
> 
>> The level of warnings in a kernel build has lately increased to the 
>> point where it is hiding bugs and otherwise making life difficult.
>>
>> In particular, recent gcc versions throw warnings when it thinks a 
>> variable "MAY be used uninitialized", which is not terribly helpful due 
>> to the fact that most of these warnings are bogus.
>>
>> For those that may find this valuable, I have started a git repo that 
>> silences these bogus warnings, after careful auditing of code paths to 
>> ensure that the warning truly is bogus.
>>
>> The results may be found in the "gccbug" branch of
>> git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/jgarzik/misc-2.6.git
>>
>> This repository will NEVER EVER be pushed upstream.  It exists solely 
>> for those who want to decrease their build noise, thereby exposing true 
>> bugs.
>>
>> The audit has already uncovered several minor bugs, lending credence to 
>> my theory that too many warnings hides bugs.
> 
> I usually build with must_check etc. enabled then grep them
> away if I want to look for other messages.  I think that the situation
> is not so disastrous.

I think it's both sad, and telling, that the high level of build noise 
has trained kernel hackers to tune out warnings, and/or build tools of 
ever-increasing sophistication just to pick out the useful messages from 
all the noise.

If you have to grep useful stuff out of the noise, you've already lost.

	Jeff



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