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Date:	Mon, 2 Oct 2006 11:38:49 -0400
From:	Mathieu Desnoyers <compudj@...stal.dyndns.org>
To:	"Jose R. Santos" <jrs@...ibm.com>
Cc:	Martin Bligh <mbligh@...gle.com>,
	"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@...hat.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@...achi.com>,
	prasanna@...ibm.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@...l.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, Paul Mundt <lethal@...ux-sh.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Jes Sorensen <jes@....com>, Tom Zanussi <zanussi@...ibm.com>,
	Richard J Moore <richardj_moore@...ibm.com>,
	Michel Dagenais <michel.dagenais@...ymtl.ca>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...e.de>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	William Cohen <wcohen@...hat.com>, ltt-dev@...fik.org,
	systemtap@...rces.redhat.com, Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@...p.org>,
	Karim Yaghmour <karim@...rsys.com>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@...e.cz>, Joe Perches <joe@...ches.com>,
	"Randy.Dunlap" <rdunlap@...otime.net>
Subject: Re: Performance analysis of Linux Kernel Markers 0.20 for 2.6.17

Hi Jose,

* Jose R. Santos (jrs@...ibm.com) wrote:
> 
> The problem now is how do we define "high event rate".  This is 
> something that is highly dependent on the workload being run as well as 
> the system configuration for such workload.  There are a lot of places 
> in the kernel that can be turned into high event rates with with the 
> right workload even though the may not represent 99% of most user cases. 
> 
> I would guess that anything above 500 event/s per-CPU on several 
> realistic workloads is a good place to start.
> 
Yes, it seems like a good starting point. But besides the event rate, just
having the most widely used events marked in the code should also be the
target. The markup mechanism serves two purposes :
1 - identify important events in a way that follows code change.
2 - speed up instrumentation.

> 
> >On the macro-benchmark side, no significant difference in performance has 
> >been
> >found between the vanilla kernel and a kernel "marked" with the standard 
> >LTTng
> >instrumentation.
> >  
> 
> Out of curiosity,  how many cycles does it take to process a complete 
> LTTng event up until the point were it has been completely stored into 
> the trace buffer.  Since this should take a lot more than 55.74 cycles, 
> it would be interesting to know at what event rate would a static marker 
> stop showing as big of a performance advantage compared to dynamic probing.
> 

In my OLS paper, I pointed out that, in its current state, LTTng took about 278
cycles on the same Pentium 4. I think I could lower that by implementing per-cpu
atomic operations (removing the LOCK prefix, as the data is not shared between
the CPUs; the atomic operations are only useful to protect from higher priority
execution contexts on the same CPU).

Regards,

Mathieu

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