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Message-Id: <1159897233.5622.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Date:	Tue, 03 Oct 2006 13:40:33 -0400
From:	Dan Williams <dcbw@...hat.com>
To:	jt@....hp.com
Cc:	Theodore Tso <tytso@....edu>,
	"John W. Linville" <linville@...driver.com>,
	Alessandro Suardi <alessandro.suardi@...il.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>, Andrew Morton <akpm@...l.org>,
	hostap@...oo.com, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: wpa supplicant/ipw3945, ESSID last char missing

On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 10:23 -0700, Jean Tourrilhes wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 09:38:45AM -0400, Theodore Tso wrote:
> > 
> > There is a fundamental question hiding here, which is whether or not
> > it is acceptable to break users who are running some large set of
> > mainline distro's, such as RHEL 4, SLES/SLED 10, Ubuntu Dapper,
> > et. al, but who want to upgrade to a newer 2.6 kernel?
> > 
> > Many users have moved to Ubuntu Dapper, or RHEL 4, or SLES/SLED 10
> > because they don't want to deal with a constantly changing/breaking
> > GNOME/X world, where packages are constantly being updated and
> > possibly breaking their desktop.
> 
> 	In the past, I personally tried to upgrade Red-Hat Workstation
> 4 with a pristine 2.6 kernel. This was far from trivial, as Red-Hat
> did compile their kernel with some weird options/patches, and
> userspace (libc) were expecting those.
> 	On the other hand, I've been personally running the latest
> 2.6.X kernels on Debian stable for as long as 2.6.X was
> available. And, things *do* break, in the past I had trouble with
> module tools, I can't run devfs or udev, Pcmcia is on the verge of
> breaking, etc...
> 
> 	In other words, running a bleeding edge kernel with a
> super-stable distro has never been for the casual user. And, I wonder
> what's the wisdom of it for the casual user, has he certainly can't
> use the advanced features of the new kernel unless he updates his
> userspace.
> 	My main box is Debian stable with a 2.4.X kernel. For that
> box, I don't see the point of going to the latest 2.6.X kernel, it
> would give me more trouble than benefits.
> 
> 	Just for kicks. Today, a new Slackware was released. And guess
> what, it has Wireless Tools 28 ;-)

I'm going to push wireless-tools-28 final for FC5-updates this week too.

Dan

> 
> 	Jean

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