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Message-ID: <20061003183849.GA17635@bougret.hpl.hp.com>
Date:	Tue, 3 Oct 2006 11:38:49 -0700
From:	Jean Tourrilhes <jt@....hp.com>
To:	Jeff Garzik <jeff@...zik.org>
Cc:	"John W. Linville" <linville@...driver.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...l.org>,
	Lee Revell <rlrevell@...-job.com>,
	Alessandro Suardi <alessandro.suardi@...il.com>,
	Norbert Preining <preining@...ic.at>, hostap@...oo.com,
	ipw3945-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net, Andrew Morton <akpm@...l.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, johannes@...solutions.net
Subject: Re: wpa supplicant/ipw3945, ESSID last char missing

On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 02:19:42PM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> John W. Linville wrote:
> >The more we can clean-up the WE API, the easier it will be to implement
> >the cfg80211 WE compatibility layer intended for wireless-dev.
> >I think WE-21 makes things better in that respect.
> >
> >Finally, I already scaled-back Jean's original WE-21 patch.  I only
> >anticipate minor bug fixes for WE from now on, with nl80211/cfg80211
> >as the heir-apparent.
> >
> >With all that said, I'd prefer to keep the existing WE-21 patches and
> >add Jean's fixes ASAP.  Is this acceptable?  If not, I'll submit the
> >reversions to Jeff ASAP.
> 
> I for one don't want to change the userspace ABI for this...  If I had 
> realized the userspace ABI was changing (<- my fault), I wouldn't have 
> merged the changes in the first place.
> 
> 	Jeff

	Jeff,

	This was discussed publically on this mailing list last
January.
		http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=113710086000009&r=1&w=2
	I made clear at that time that I did not like this change
because the userspace ABI would change, but I was overruled by a wide
consensus. So, don't blame me.
	This change was rediscussed and reconfirmed at the Wireless
Summit. I only tried to make such change smooth, but it was not my
idea.

	Now it's too late, those changes have propagated to userspace
tools, and are now shipping in some actual release of some distro. So,
what are we going to say to Mandriva 2007 and FC6 users, to revert
back to an *older* version of the tools ?
	Because userspace has already been updated, we have only two
options, merge it now, or in 2.6.20.

	Regards,

	Jean

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