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Message-Id: <200610070001.01752.rjw@sisk.pl>
Date:	Sat, 7 Oct 2006 00:01:01 +0200
From:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...l.org>
Cc:	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>,
	Jeff Garzik <jeff@...zik.org>, Andi Kleen <ak@...e.de>,
	discuss@...-64.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [discuss] Re: Please pull x86-64 bug fixes

On Friday, 6 October 2006 18:07, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 6 Oct 2006, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> >
> > we can do a tiny bit better than the current code; some chipsets have
> > the address of the MMIO region stored in their config space; so we can
> > get to that using the old method and validate the acpi code with that.
> 
> Yes. I think trusting ACPI is _always_ a mistake. It's insane. We should 
> never ask the firmware for any data that we can just figure out ourselves.
> 
> And we should tell all hardware companies that firmware tables are stupid, 
> and that we just want to know what the hell the registers MEAN!
> 
> I've certainly tried to tell Intel that. I think they may even have heard 
> me occasionally.
> 
> I can't understand why some people _still_ think ACPI is a good idea..

I violently agree.

Rafael


-- 
You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
		R. Buckminster Fuller

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