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Message-ID: <453BBEA6.7050402@qumranet.com>
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 20:55:34 +0200
From: Avi Kivity <avi@...ranet.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>
CC: Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
Muli Ben-Yehuda <muli@...ibm.com>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
Anthony Liguori <aliguori@...ibm.com>,
Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] KVM: Kernel-based Virtual Machine
Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Sunday 22 October 2006 20:41, Avi Kivity wrote:
>
>>> Ok, but if you radically change the kernel<->user API, doesn't that mean
>>> you have to upgrade in the same way?
>>>
>> No, why? I'd just upgrade the userspace. Am I misunderstanding you?
>>
>
> If you change the kernel interface, you also have to change the kernel
> itself, at least if you introduce new syscalls.
>
>
But I don't have to upgrade all my software to 64 bit [but 32-bit
emulation solves that].
Still, an upgrade to the next 32-bit kernel could be seen as less
threatening.
>>> The 32 bit emulation mode in x86_64
>>> is actually pretty complete, so it probably boils down to a kernel
>>> upgrade for you, without having to touch any of the user space.
>>>
>>>
>> For me personally, I don't mind. I don't know about others.
>>
>
> I'd really love to see your code in get into the mainline kernel,
> but I'd consider 32 bit host support an unnecessary burden for
> long-term maintenance. Maybe you could maintain the 32 bit version
> out of tree as long as there is still interest? I would expect that
> at least the point where it works out of the box on x86_64
> distros is when it becomes completely obsolete.
>
One of my motivations was to get testers who run 32-bit for historical
or flash plugin reasons.
If there is a consensus that it should be dropped, though, I'll drop
it. I certainly didn't have any fun getting it to run.
--
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.
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