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Date:	Tue, 24 Oct 2006 11:03:22 +0200
From:	Erik Mouw <erik@...ddisk-recovery.com>
To:	Oleg Verych <olecom@...wer.upol.cz>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Mailing lists (again, was ANNOUNCEMENT: Real-time Linux users list created)

On Sun, Oct 22, 2006 at 07:56:12AM +0000, Oleg Verych wrote:
> On 2006-10-20, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> >
> > 	We have created a list for users of CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT,
> > linux-rt-users@...r.kernel.org.   It is archived on gmane.org (and of
> > course people who want to read it via gmane's NNTP or RSS feeds can do
> > so as well): 
> >
> > 	http://gmane.org/info.php?group=gmane.linux.rt.user
> 
> Could you, please, explain why this new list and LKML add that
> (imho silly) messages in every post? (e.g.):
> .____
> |-
> |To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe
> |linux-rt-users" in
> |the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
> |More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
> `----
> 
> Why not to use something like this in the headers?
> 
> ,--
> |List-Post: <mailto:XXX-kernel@...ts.ZZZZ.org>
> |List-Help: <mailto:XXX-kernel-request@...ts.ZZZZ.org?subject=help>
> |List-Subscribe: <mailto:XXX-kernel-request@...ts.ZZZZ.org?subject=su...
> |List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:XXX-kernel-request@...ts.ZZZZ.org?subject=un...
> `--
> 
> I think everybody, who wants to use the list, may find info; in the
> message's headers one may (and should) find even more info on how to
> use, manage, configure the list.
> IMHO store this in information body of a message, is useless payload.

You might be surprised how many clueless people there are out there
that can't find that kind of information when it's hidden somewhere in
the headers. Just run a mailing list and you'll soon find out that you
really want that kind of vital information in the body.


Erik
[who happens to be linux-arm*-owner #2]

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