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Message-Id: <200610251432.41958.rjw@sisk.pl>
Date:	Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:32:39 +0200
From:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>
To:	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
Cc:	David Chinner <dgc@....com>,
	Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@...uxmail.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...l.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, xfs@....sgi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Freeze bdevs when freezing processes.

On Wednesday, 25 October 2006 10:47, Pavel Machek wrote:
> On Wed 2006-10-25 18:38:30, David Chinner wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 10:10:01AM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > > Hence the only way to correctly rebuild the XFS state on resume is
> > > > to quiesce the filesystem on suspend and thaw it on resume so as to
> > > > trigger log recovery.
> > > 
> > > No, during suspend/resume, memory image is saved, and no state is
> > > lost. We would not even have to do sys_sync(), and suspend/resume
> > > would still work properly.
> > 
> > It seems to me that you ensure the filesystem is synced to disk and
> > then at some point later you record the memory state of the
> > filesystem, but these happen at different times. That leaves a
> > window for things to get out of sync again, right?
> 
> I DO NOT HAVE TO ENSURE FILESYSTEM IS SYNCED. That sys_sync() is
> optional.
> 
> Recording of memory state is atomic, and as long as noone writes to
> the disk after atomic snapshot, memory image matches what is on disk.

Well, my impression is that this is exactly what happens here: Something
in the XFS code causes metadata to be written to disk _after_ the atomic
snapshot.

That's why I asked if the dirty XFS metadata were flushed by a kernel thread.

Greetings,
Rafael


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