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Message-Id: <1161819459.7615.42.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Date:	Thu, 26 Oct 2006 00:37:39 +0100
From:	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To:	David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>
Cc:	sds@...ho.nsa.gov, jmorris@...ei.org, chrisw@...s-sol.org,
	selinux@...ho.nsa.gov, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	aviro@...hat.com
Subject: Re: Security issues with local filesystem caching

Ar Mer, 2006-10-25 am 11:14 +0100, ysgrifennodd David Howells:
> Currently, CacheFiles temporarily changes fsuid and fsgid to 0 whilst doing its
> own pathwalk through the cache and whilst creating files and directories in the
> cache.  This allows it to deal with DAC security directly.  All the directories
> it creates are given permissions mask 0700 and all files 0000.

That seems sensible and fine. It is precisely why we added a separate
fsuid in the first place so that the user space nfsd could take on an fs
identity without breaking signal and other security based forms.

>  (1) Do all the cache operations in their own thread (sort of like knfsd).

Slow it down to keep Christoph happy seems iffy

>  (2) Add further security ops for the caching code to call.  These might be of
>      use elsewhere in the kernel.  These would set cache-specific security
>      labels and check for them.

I can see good arguments for this in some cases where you want strict
divisons in extremely secure computing cases but not usually.

> Thoughts anyone?

I'd like to know more about why Christoph is objecting, whether he has
actual real world examples of races/problems it introduces by altering
fsuid or what his concern is.


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