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Message-ID: <20061031153116.GA19704@1wt.eu>
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 16:31:16 +0100
From: Willy Tarreau <w@....eu>
To: Pádraig Brady <P@...igBrady.com>
Cc: Lee Revell <rlrevell@...-job.com>, Andi Kleen <ak@...e.de>,
thockin@...kin.org, Luca Tettamanti <kronos.it@...il.com>,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, john stultz <johnstul@...ibm.com>
Subject: Re: AMD X2 unsynced TSC fix?
On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 11:12:47AM +0000, Pádraig Brady wrote:
> Willy Tarreau wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 11:28:00PM -0400, Lee Revell wrote:
> >
> >>On Fri, 2006-10-27 at 18:04 -0700, Andi Kleen wrote:
> >>
> >>>I don't think it makes too much sense to hack on pure RDTSC when
> >>>gtod is fast enough -- RDTSC will be always icky and hard to use.
> >>
> >>I agree FWIW, our application would be happy to just use gtod if it
> >>wasn't so slow on these machines.
> >
> >
> > Agreed, I had to turn about 20 dual-core servers to single core because
> > the only way to get a monotonic gtod made it so slow that it was not
> > worth using a dual-core. I initially considered buying one dual-core
> > AMD for my own use, but after seeing this, I'm definitely sure I won't
> > ever buy one as long as this problem is not fixed, as it causes too
> > many problems.
>
> For the record, in my previous job we were implementing
> a very fast packet sniffer/timestamper using 2x3.2GHz P4 Xeons + linux 2.4.20 (with gtod)
> Very rarely we would see inter packet times jump by (2^32)/CPU_Hz seconds,
> when sniffing about 1.2 million packets per second on 2 e1000 links,
> which suggested a wrap around of a 32 bit comparison somewhere.
Interesting, as in my case I was jumps of about +/- 2s on a 2.2 GHz box, which
also suggests a wrap around.
> This lead to the fix below which was never picked up
> (I guessed because it was addressed elsewhere?).
> Note we were only interested in millisecond resolution for the timestamps,
> but the approximation is very good in general as you know the TSCs are very
> close to each other when this condition happens.
100% agreed.
> Note power management was not used on our systems.
>
> Pádraig.
>
> diff -Naru linux-2.4.20/arch/i386/kernel/time.c linux-2.4.20-corvil/arch/i386/kernel/time.c
> --- linux-2.4.20/arch/i386/kernel/time.c 2002-11-28 23:53:09.000000000 +0000
> +++ linux-2.4.20-pb/arch/i386/kernel/time.c 2005-07-07 10:32:34.000000000 +0100
> @@ -94,6 +94,9 @@
>
> /* .. relative to previous jiffy (32 bits is enough) */
> eax -= last_tsc_low; /* tsc_low delta */
> + if ((signed)eax < 0) { /* workaround for drifting TSCs */
> + eax = 0;
> + printk(KERN_INFO "tsc wrap around applied\n"); /* rare */
> + }
>
> /*
> * Time offset = (tsc_low delta) * fast_gettimeoffset_quotient
Cheers,
Willy
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