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Date:	Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:59:57 -0800
From:	Auke Kok <auke-jan.h.kok@...el.com>
To:	Theodore Tso <tytso@....edu>, Auke Kok <auke-jan.h.kok@...el.com>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>,
	"Robin H. Johnson" <robbat2@...too.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: e1000/ICH8LAN weirdness - no ethtool link until initially forced
 up

Theodore Tso wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 07, 2006 at 07:51:22AM -0800, Auke Kok wrote:
>> Your application should really `ifconfig up` the device before checking for 
>> link.
> 
> And for those of us with laptops, application authors should do an
> "ifconfig down" the device if it doesn't find a link.  Right now
> thanks to such applications on my desktop, I boot with e1000
> blacklisted so I can run in low-power mode when on a laptop.
> 
> BTW, it would be nice if the e1000 driver could be more safely
> unloaded when it is built as a module.

I'm not aware of unload issues, what is the problem that you have?

Auke
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