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Date:	Thu, 09 Nov 2006 22:09:26 -0700
From:	ebiederm@...ssion.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To:	"Magnus Damm" <magnus.damm@...il.com>
Cc:	"Magnus Damm" <magnus@...inux.co.jp>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	"Vivek Goyal" <vgoyal@...ibm.com>, "Andi Kleen" <ak@....de>,
	fastboot@...ts.osdl.org, Horms <horms@...ge.net.au>,
	"Dave Anderson" <anderson@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/02] Elf: Align elf notes properly

"Magnus Damm" <magnus.damm@...il.com> writes:

> I'm not sure you see all my points. The important parts are the
> offsets - offset 0 and offset N2 in the description above. The should
> be aligned somehow. Exactly how to align them depends on if the 64-bit
> spec is valid or not.
>
> My points are:
>
> - Some kdump code rounds up the size of "elf note header" today. This
> is unneccessary for 32 bit alignment and plain wrong for 64 bit
> alignment. So I think that the code is strange and should be changed
> regardless if the 64-bit spec is valid or not.

Sure that is reasonable, if correct.

> - Many implementations incorrectly calculate N2 as: roundup(sizeof(elf
> note header)) + roundup(n_namesz).

I am not certain that is incorrect.  roundup(sizeof(elf note header), 4) +
roundup(n_namesize, 4) will yield something that is properly 4 byte aligned.
I do agree that implementation is not correct for 8 byte alignment.  8 byte
alignment does not appear to be in widespread use in the wild.

> - You say that the size of the notes do not vary and therefore this is
> a non-issue. I agree that the size does not vary, but I believe that
> the aligment _is_ an issue. One example is the N2 calculation above,
> but more importantly the vmcore code that merges the elf note sections
> into one. You know, if you have more than one cpu you will end up with
> more than one crash note. And if you run Xen you will have even more
> crash notes.

Sure that is clearly an issue.

> - On top of this I think it would be nice if all this code could be
> unified to avoid code duplication. But we need to straighten out this
> and agree on how the aligment should work before the code can be
> merged into one implementation.

Sure.

To verify your claim that 8 byte alignment is correct I checked the
core dump code in fs/binfmt_elf.c in the linux kernel.  That always
uses 4 byte alignment.  Therefore it appears clear that only doing
4 byte alignment is not a local misreading of the spec, and is used in
other implementations.  If you can find an implementation that uses
8 byte alignment I am willing to consider it.

The current situation is that the linux kernel generated application
core dumps use 4 byte alignment so I expect that is what existing
applications such as gdb expect.

Therefore we use 4 byte alignment unless it can be shown that the
linux core dumps are a fluke and should be fixed.


Eric
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