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Message-ID: <20061113221611.GG4824@voodoo.jdc.home>
Date:	Mon, 13 Nov 2006 17:16:11 -0500
From:	Jim Crilly <jim@....dont.jablowme.net>
To:	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>
Cc:	Lee Revell <rlrevell@...-job.com>,
	Ben Collins <ben.collins@...ntu.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Pushing device/driver binding decisions to userspace

On 11/13/06 09:18:59PM +0100, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-11-13 at 13:51 -0500, Lee Revell wrote:
> > On Mon, 2006-11-13 at 08:58 +0100, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> > > Now; there is a second issue. If the choice for one or the other is
> > > consistent, we should consider fixing the kernel drivers to just not
> > > advertise the b0rked one.. (this assumes that both drivers are in the
> > > kernel and both are open source) 
> > 
> > Unfortunately it becomes political quickly.  For example the old OSS
> > i810_audio driver is still in the kernel even though the ALSA driver
> > supports more hardware and provides more functionality because some
> > people consider the ALSA driver bloated.
> 
> I doubt distros ship both though.... I thought all distros were
> alsa-only by now..
> 

I know that Debian ships both because I have to switch back to the OSS
driver whenever I want to play one of those closed source games that mmap
/dev/dsp because the ALSA OSS emulation can't seem to handle having the
device opened via ALSA and /dev/dsp at the same time and the aoss wrapper
doesn't work for apps that use mmap on /dev/dsp.

Jim.
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