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Message-Id: <1163977180.13408.36.camel@localhost>
Date:	Sun, 19 Nov 2006 23:59:39 +0100
From:	Romano Giannetti <romano.giannetti@...il.com>
To:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>
Cc:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...l.org>,
	Chuck Ebbert <76306.1226@...puserve.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...l.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] PM: suspend/resume debugging should depend on 
	SOFTWARE_SUSPEND

On Sun, 2006-11-19 at 19:55 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Sunday, 19 November 2006 19:21, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > 
> > On Sun, 19 Nov 2006, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > >
> > > In fact that's up to 30 seconds on a modern box, usually less than that.
> > 
> > Right. If the machine boots quickly, it's fast. Of course, if the machine 
> > boots quickly, you might as well often just shut down and reboot.
> 
> Yes, if the only thing you want to run is the kernel.  The applications aren't
> going to start so quickly, you know. ;-)

Can I say a word in defence of STD? It's true that now that I have STR
working(*) for the first time on my old vaio I use it much less, but it
has been my salvation in the last four years, and for this I have to
thanks Nigel, Pavel, Rafael and all the people involved. And still now
it is very useful. I can STD a session with tens of application opened,
and come back after changing batteries  in less than a minute _doing
other things_, and not opening applications and files all over the
place. So yes, I think it's useful. 

And when suspend-to-both will work radiply and safely, that will be
great (and a point over The Other SO...) 

Romano 
 
(*) if only for this, all the troubles I had upgrading to Ubuntu Edgy
has been worthwhile. 


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