linux-kernel - Re: [Cbe-oss-dev] [PATCH]Add notification for active Cell SPU tasks

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Message-ID: <45797EFE.3040008@us.ibm.com>
Date:	Fri, 08 Dec 2006 09:04:30 -0600
From:	Maynard Johnson <maynardj@...ibm.com>
To:	Arnd Bergmann <arnd.bergmann@...ibm.com>
CC:	cbe-oss-dev@...abs.org, maynardj@...ux.vnet.ibm.com,
	Luke Browning <lukeb@...ibm.com>,
	linuxppc-dev-bounces+lukebrowning=us.ibm.com@...abs.org,
	Luke Browning <lukebrowning@...ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@...abs.org,
	oprofile-list@...ts.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Cbe-oss-dev] [PATCH]Add notification for active Cell SPU tasks

Arnd Bergmann wrote:

>On Wednesday 06 December 2006 23:04, Maynard Johnson wrote:
>  
>
>>text(struct spu *spu, struct 
>>    
>>
>>>spu_context *ctx)
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Is this really the right strategy?  First, it serializes all spu 
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>context
>>>      
>>>
>>>>switching at the node level.  Second, it performs 17 callouts for
>>>>        
>>>>
>>I could be wrong, but I think if we moved the mutex_lock to be inside of 
>>the list_for_each_entry loop, we could have a race condition.  For 
>>example, we obtain the next spu item from the spu_prio->active_mutex 
>>list, then wait on the mutex which is being held for the purpose of 
>>removing the very spu context we just obtained.
>>
>>    
>>
>>>>every context
>>>>switch.  Can't oprofile internally derive the list of active spus 
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>from the  
>>>      
>>>
>>>>context switch callout. 
>>>>        
>>>>
>>Arnd would certainly know the answer to this off the top of his head, 
>>but when I initially discussed the idea for this patch with him 
>>(probably a couple months ago or so), he didn't suggest a better 
>>alternative.  Perhaps there is a way to do this with current SPUFS 
>>code.  Arnd, any comments on this?
>>    
>>
>
>
>
>No code should ever need to look at other SPUs when performing an
>operation on a given SPU, so we don't need to hold a global lock
>during normal operation.
>
>We have two cases that need to be handled:
>
>- on each context unload and load (both for a full switch operation),
>  call to the profiling code with a pointer to the current context
>  and spu (context is NULL when unloading).
>
>  If the new context is not know yet, scan its overlay table (expensive)
>  and store information about it in an oprofile private object. Otherwise
>  just point to the currently active object, this should be really cheap.
>
>- When enabling oprofile initially, scan all contexts that are currently
>  running on one of the SPUs. This is also expensive, but should happen
>  before the measurement starts so it does not impact the resulting data.
>
>  
>
>>>>Also, the notify_spus_active() callout is dependent on the return 
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>code of
>>>      
>>>
>>>>spu_switch_notify().  Should notification be hierarchical?  If I
>>>>only register
>>>>for the second one, should my notification be dependent on the 
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>return code
>>>      
>>>
>>>>of some non-related subsystem's handler. 
>>>>        
>>>>
>>I'm not exactly sure what you're saying here.  Are you suggesting that a 
>>user may only be interested in acitve SPU notification and, therefore, 
>>shouldn't have to be depenent on the "standard" notification 
>>registration succeeding?  There may be a case for adding a new 
>>registration function, I suppose; although, I'm not aware of any other 
>>users of the SPUFS notification mechanism besides OProfile and PDT, and 
>>we need notification of both active and future SPU tasks.  But I would 
>>not object to a new function.
>>
>>    
>>
>I think what Luke was trying to get to is that notify_spus_active() should
>not call blocking_notifier_call_chain(), since it will notify other users
>as well as the newly registered one. Instead, it can simply call the
>notifier function directly.
>  
>
Ah, yes.  Thanks to both of you for pointing that out.  I'll fix that 
and re-post.

-Maynard

>	Arnd <><
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