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Message-ID: <20061211105219.GH4587@ftp.linux.org.uk>
Date:	Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:52:19 +0000
From:	Al Viro <viro@....linux.org.uk>
To:	Olaf Hering <olaf@...fle.de>
Cc:	Chuck Ebbert <76306.1226@...puserve.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...l.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...l.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] pipe: Don't oops when pipe filesystem isn't mounted

On Mon, Dec 11, 2006 at 11:48:57AM +0100, Olaf Hering wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 11, Chuck Ebbert wrote:
> 
> > Why not create a new initcall category for things that must run before
> > early userspace?
> 
> Why do you want to continue with papering over the root cause?
> Pick some janitor, let him write something that implements something
> like make style dependencies for initcalls.
> Then you can get rid of all that foo_initcall stuff.
> It surely needs work to get all that done.

I would argue that _this_ is papering over the root cause.  Namely,
too complex ordering requirements.  Growing a technics for allowing
them to fester is an odd solution...
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