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Message-ID: <4583527D.4000903@dbservice.com>
Date:	Sat, 16 Dec 2006 01:57:17 +0000
From:	Tomas Carnecky <tom@...ervice.com>
To:	Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@...il.com>
CC:	James Porter <jameslporter@...il.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Binary Drivers

Alexey Dobriyan wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 15, 2006 at 09:20:58PM +0000, James Porter wrote:
>> For what it's worth, I don't see any problem with binary drivers from hardware
>> manufacturers.
> 
> Binary drivers from hardware manufacturers are crap. Learn it by heart.
> 

That's your personal opinion! A lot other people (including me) have had 
excellent experience with binary drivers!

>> Just because nvidia makes a closed source driver doesn't mean that we can't also
>> create an open source driver(limited functionality, reverse engineered,
>> etc.,etc.).
> 
> We can.
> 

The day you show me that the open-source driver is faster and more 
stable then the binary driver, I'll switch. But until then I'll stay 
with my binary driver. I haven't had any serious problems with it, in 
fact, I'm very happy, so why should I want to switch?

I don't see Linux in such a political way like some of you do, for me 
Linux is just like any other OS. There are good drivers and bad drivers. 
And I don't care if they are open source or binary, I don't judge them 
based on that, but based on how well they work and how good the support is.

> But users of binary drivers should be blocked from sending bug reports
> to kernel developers.
> 

Most end-users will never get directly in touch with the kernel 
developers. They'll first go to their distribution. Most Ubuntu users 
don't even know what a kernel is (not that I use Ubuntu, but it's a 
distribution that is widespread among the less experienced end-users and 
people who switch to Linux from the windows world).


tom
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