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Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 12:04:56 +0100 (CET) From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@...ux-m68k.org> To: Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@...izon.net> cc: Linux Kernel Development <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org> Subject: Re: GPL only modules [was Re: [GIT PATCH] more Driver core patches for 2.6.19] On Sat, 16 Dec 2006, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 16 December 2006 05:28, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > >On Saturday, 16 December 2006 07:43, Willy Tarreau wrote: > [...] > >I think the most important problem with the binary-only drivers is that > > we can't support their users _at_ _all_, but some of them expect us to > > support them somehow. > > > >So, why don't we make an official statement, like something that will > > appear on the front page of www.kernel.org, that the users of > > binary-only drivers will never get any support from us? That would > > make things crystal clear. > > I disagree with this, to the extent that I perceive this business of no > support for a 'tainted' kernel to be almost in the same category as > saying that if we configure and build our own kernels, then we are alone > and you don't want to hear about it. > > Yes, there is a rather large difference in actual fact, but if I come to There's indeed a big difference. That's why people ask for your .config and for the changes you made to your kernel (especially in cases like `Hi, the kernel crashes with my newly written driver'). > the list with a firewire or usb problem, we should be capable of > divorcing the fact that I may also be using an ati or nvidia supplied > driver from the firewire or usb problem at hand. You can divorce it by not loading the binary-only driver(s) and reproducing the problem. > I am not in fact using the ati driver with my 9200SE, as the in-kernel as > its plenty good enough for that I do, but that's the point. To > automaticly deny supplying what might be helpfull suggestions just > because the user has a 'tainted' kernel strikes me as being pretty darned > hypocritical, particularly when the user states he has reverted but this > instant problem persists. Then the kernel is no longer tainted, right? Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@...ux-m68k.org In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
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