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Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 18:22:42 +1100
From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@...oo.com.au>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@...l.org>
CC: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...l.org>, andrei.popa@...eo.ro,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
Hugh Dickins <hugh@...itas.com>,
Florian Weimer <fw@...eb.enyo.de>,
Marc Haber <mh+linux-kernel@...schlus.de>,
Martin Michlmayr <tbm@...ius.com>
Subject: Re: 2.6.19 file content corruption on ext3
Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 15:51:52 +1100
> Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@...oo.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>>I think the problem Andrew identified is real.
>
>
> I don't. In fact I don't think I described any problem (well, I tried to,
> but then I contradicted myself).
By saying that there shouldn't be any dirty ptes if there are no
dirty buffers? But in that case the _page_ shouldn't be dirty either,
so that clear_page_dirty would be redundant. But presumably it isn't.
> Six hours here of fsx-linux plus high memory pressure on SMP on 1k
> blocksize ext3, mainline. Zero failures. It's unlikely that this testing
> would pass, yet people running normal workloads are able to easily trigger
> failures. I suspect we're looking in the wrong place.
Yes I could believe it the corruption is caused by something else
completely.
>>The issue is the disconnect between the pte dirtiness and a filesystem
>>bringing buffers clean.
>
>
> Really? The dirtying direction goes pte_dirty->PG_dirty->BH_Dirty and the
> cleaning direction goes !BH_Dirty->!PG_dirty->!pte_dirty. That's pretty
> simple, setting aside races.
>
> In the try_to_free_buffers case there's a large time inverval between
> !BH_Dirty and !PG_dirty, but that shouldn't affect anything.
After try_to_free_buffers detaches the buffers from the page, a
pagefault can come in, and mark the pte writeable, then set_page_dirty
(which finds no buffers, so only sets PG_dirty).
The page can now get dirtied through this mapping.
try_to_free_buffers then goes on to clean the page and ptes.
I really thought you were the one who identified this race, and I didn't
see where you showed it is safe.
It may be very unlikely with small SMPs, but less so with preempt. All
we have to do is preempt at spin_unlock in try_to_free_buffers AFAIKS.
Were you testing with preempt?
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SUSE Labs, Novell Inc.
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