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Message-Id: <1166518810.10372.127.camel@twins>
Date:	Tue, 19 Dec 2006 10:00:10 +0100
From:	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...l.org>
Cc:	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@...oo.com.au>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...l.org>, andrei.popa@...eo.ro,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh@...itas.com>,
	Florian Weimer <fw@...eb.enyo.de>,
	Marc Haber <mh+linux-kernel@...schlus.de>,
	Martin Michlmayr <tbm@...ius.com>
Subject: Re: 2.6.19 file content corruption on ext3

On Tue, 2006-12-19 at 00:04 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> Nobody has actually ever explained why "test_clear_page_dirty()" is good 
> at all.
> 
>  - Why is it ever used instead of "clear_page_dirty_for_io()"?
> 
>  - What is the difference?
> 
>  - Why would you EVER want to clear bits just in the "struct page *" or 
>    just in the PTE's?
> 
>  - Why is it EVER correct to clear dirty bits except JUST BEFORE THE IO?
> 
> In other words, I have a theory:
> 
>  "A lot of this is actually historical cruft. Some of it may even be code 
>   that was never supposed to work, but because we maintained _other_ dirty 
>   bits in the PTE's, and never touched them before, we never even realized 
>   that the code that played with PG_dirty was totally insane"
> 
> Now, that's just a theory. And yeah, it may be stated a bit provocatively. 
> It may not be entirely correct. I'm just saying.. maybe it is?

On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 15:40 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:

> try_to_free_buffers() clears the page's dirty state if it successfully removed
> the page's buffers.
> 
>   Background for this:
> 
>   - a process does a one-byte-write to a file on a 64k pagesize, 4k
>     blocksize ext3 filesystem.  The page is now PageDirty, !PgeUptodate and
>     has one dirty buffer and 15 not uptodate buffers.
> 
>   - kjournald writes the dirty buffer.  The page is now PageDirty,
>     !PageUptodate and has a mix of clean and not uptodate buffers.
> 
>   - try_to_free_buffers() removes the page's buffers.  It MUST now clear
>     PageDirty.  If we were to leave the page dirty then we'd have a dirty, not
>     uptodate page with no buffer_heads.
> 
>     We're screwed: we cannot write the page because we don't know which
>     sections of it contain garbage.  We cannot read the page because we don't
>     know which sections of it contain modified data.  We cannot free the page
>     because it is dirty.

However!! this is not true for mapped pages because mapped pages must
have the whole (16k in akpm's example) page loaded. Hence I suspect that
what Andrei did by accident - remove the if (mapping) case in
test_clean_dirty_pages() - is actually totally correct.



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