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Message-ID: <20070103115632.GA3062@elf.ucw.cz>
Date:	Wed, 3 Jan 2007 12:56:32 +0100
From:	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
To:	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@...redi.hu>
Cc:	bhalevy@...asas.com, arjan@...radead.org,
	mikulas@...ax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz, jaharkes@...cmu.edu,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org,
	nfsv4@...f.org
Subject: Re: Finding hardlinks

Hi!

> > > the use of a good hash function.  The chance of an accidental
> > > collision is infinitesimally small.  For a set of 
> > > 
> > >          100 files: 0.00000000000003%
> > >    1,000,000 files: 0.000003%
> > 
> > I do not think we want to play with probability like this. I mean...
> > imagine 4G files, 1KB each. That's 4TB disk space, not _completely_
> > unreasonable, and collision probability is going to be ~100% due to
> > birthday paradox.
> > 
> > You'll still want to back up your 4TB server...
> 
> Certainly, but tar isn't going to remember all the inode numbers.
> Even if you solve the storage requirements (not impossible) it would
> have to do (4e9^2)/2=8e18 comparisons, which computers don't have
> enough CPU power just yet.

Storage requirements would be 16GB of RAM... that's small enough. If
you sort, you'll only need 32*2^32 comparisons, and that's doable.

I do not claim it is _likely_. You'd need hardlinks, as you
noticed. But system should work, not "work with high probability", and
I believe we should solve this in long term.
								Pavel
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