lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <20070107100256.GA24013@ingate.macqel.be>
Date:	Sun, 7 Jan 2007 11:02:56 +0100
From:	Philippe De Muyter <phdm@...qel.be>
To:	David Brownell <david-b@...bell.net>
Cc:	Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: RTC subsystem and fractions of seconds

On Sat, Jan 06, 2007 at 03:52:43PM -0800, David Brownell wrote:
> On Saturday 06 January 2007 3:26 pm, Philippe De Muyter wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 07:49:00PM -0800, David Brownell wrote:
> > > >  	Those rtc's actually have a 1/100th of second
> > > > register.  Should the generic rtc interface not support that?
> > > 
> > > Are you implying a new userspace API, or just an in-kernel update?
> > 
> > My only concern at the moment is initializing linux's timeofday from the rtc
> > quickly and with a good precision. 
> 
> There will necessarily be a bit of fuzz there since it can take time to
> get that RTC's mutex, and the task setting that time can be preempted.
> Plus, there can also be delays at the I2C or SPI transaction level.
> 
> 
> > The way it is done currently 
> > in drivers/rtc/hctosys.c is 0.5 sec off.  We could obtain a much better
> > precision by looping there until the next change (next second for old clocks,
> > next 0.01 second for m41t81, maybe even better for other ones).
> 
> Hmm ... "looping" fights against "quickly"; as would "wait for next
> update IRQ" (on RTCs that support that).  But it would improve precision,
> at least in the sense of having the system clock and that RTC spending
> less time with the lowest "seconds" digit disagreeing.
> 
> This is something you could write a patch for, n'est-ce pas?

That would require changing the interface provided by the rtc class, but
I'll look at it.

> 
> - Dave
> 
> 

-- 
-
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ