linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH - RFC] allow setting vm_dirty below 1% for large memory machines

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Message-Id: <20070111144801.ef86c169.akpm@osdl.org>
Date:	Thu, 11 Jan 2007 14:48:01 -0800
From:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...l.org>
To:	dean gaudet <dean@...tic.org>
Cc:	Neil Brown <neilb@...e.de>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH - RFC] allow setting vm_dirty below 1% for large memory
 machines

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 14:35:06 -0800 (PST)
dean gaudet <dean@...tic.org> wrote:

> actually a global dirty_ratio causes interference between devices which 
> should otherwise not block each other...
> 
> if you set up a "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=1M" it shouldn't affect 
> write performance on sda -- but it does... because the dd basically 
> dirties all of the "dirty_background_ratio" pages and then any task 
> writing to sda has to block in the foreground...  (i've had this happen in 
> practice -- my hack fix is oflag=direct on the dd... but the problem still 
> exists.)

yeah.  Plus your heavy-dd-to-/dev/sda tends to block light-writers to
/dev/sda in perhaps disproportionate ways.

This is on my list of things to look at.  Hah.

> i'm not saying fixing any of this is easy, i'm just being a user griping 
> about it :)

It's rather complex, I believe.   Needs per-backing-dev dirty counts (already
in -mm) plus, I suspect, per-process dirty counts (possibly derivable from
per-task-io-accounting) plus some tricky logic to make all that work along
with global dirtiness (and later per-node dirtiness!) while meeting all the
constraints which that logic must satisfy.
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