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Date:	Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:19:39 +0530
From:	"Sunil Naidu" <akula2.shark@...il.com>
To:	"Theodore Tso" <tytso@....edu>,
	"Sunil Naidu" <akula2.shark@...il.com>,
	"Josh Boyer" <jwboyer@...il.com>,
	"James Morris" <jmorris@...ei.org>, "Alan Cox" <alan@...hat.com>,
	"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@....de>, ksummit-2006-discuss@...nk.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2006-discuss] 2007 Linux Kernel Summit

On 1/24/07, Theodore Tso <tytso@....edu> wrote:
>
> Presumably the way to do this would be to have a large conference
> (such as OLS) after the kernel summit.  Hopefully most kernel summit
> attendees would stick around for 2-3 days afterwards for the technical
> conference.

This is a good idea ;-) There is a FOSS held in India every year, can
we consider to make use of this venue? Pl have a look:-

http://foss.in/2006/

> The problem is that the value of the kernel summit is that we get the
> > 90% of the key, "right" people there so we can have face-to-face
> conversations.  There reason why I started organizing it years ago was
> that I hoped that if key developers had a chance to meet with each
> other at least once a year, it would help them more productively
> communicate with each other via e-mail the rest of the year.  I think
> it has succeeded in that goal quite well.  The problem though is that
> most people can't afford to fly to India or Australia, and their
> employers' travel budgets won't allow that either --- and the value of
> the K-S is based on getting as many of the key kernel developers in
> one place as possible.

I do fully agree with you on this. It should be a quality time with
atleast 90% key people.

> Two years ago, maddog tried to convince me that Brazil would be a
> perfect place to hold a kernel summit, and that the Brazillian
> government was 100% behind linux, and could provide a wonderful
> location, yadda, yadda, yadda.  What I told him was that the only way
> I could imagine it working would be if the Brazillian government was
> willing to pay travel costs for all 80+ kernel summit attendees to fly
> from whatever their home airport to Brazil.  That way, we don't have
> to deal with the pushback from corporate travel budget keepers for
> having to pay $$$ for travel to places around the world.  When I told
> maddog that, presumably he went back to his Brazillian contacts and we
> never heard back from him about moving the kernel summit to Brazil again.  :-)

I really doubt whether any Government pays for a Kernel Summit (they
will have their own reasons or whatever). Maddog might have felt same
like me - huge potential of Linux lies with in B-R-I-C nations, hence
we need to stir up more for the movement to catch up (KS would be
perfect for this). This initiative would also pays the way for making
the dream of a competing Linux Desktop turning into a reality.

I am not saying any other nation is less significant, history of Linux
is the proof for that. All am wishing is, let's make something more or
do more good for our Penguin ;-)

> I would suspect it would be a similar issue with India.  I'd love to
> have the opportunity to visit Bangalore (or should I say Bengaluru? :-).
> I also know that it's extremely unlikely that my employer would agree
> to pay for me to fly there, not to mention all of the other folks that
> would need to go to the K-S.  But hey, if you think that there are
> organizations in India who would be willing to pay travel for _all_ of
> the K-S attendees (preferably business class travel :-), let's
> talk....

Earlier it was Bangalore, it's now Bengaluru. Linux is also happening
in other places here in India like Hyderabad, Pune, Gurgoan, etc
(these cities has IT power houses).

I do not know about other organizations much. I shall put this with my
bosses in my Labs first, this would be involving my company itself .
Also, shall explore with my peers (other orgnizations like FOSS). What
is the deadline to decide about the location? Believe me, my wish is
so high...I wanted to sponsor for u guys (can bear a dozen)...but not
so many as 80 ;-)

[OT] I read as key kernel developers as some 440 members. Is this for
2.4.x or what? I am confused with the figure 80 ?? KS would have
Linus, Alan, Andrew, Ingo, and others?

>                                                 - Ted

Thanks,

~Akula2
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