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Date:	Sat, 27 Jan 2007 15:51:42 +0100 (MET)
From:	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@...ux01.gwdg.de>
To:	vandrove@...cvut.cz
cc:	Pierre Ossman <drzeus-list@...eus.cx>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: ncpfs and TCP vs UDP


On Jan 26 2007 22:20, vandrove@...cvut.cz wrote:
>Quoting Pierre Ossman <drzeus-list@...eus.cx>:
>
>TCP is definitely preferred.  There are couple of reasons why you should
>prefer TCP:
>
>(1) There is server configuration option to disable NCP/UDP.  You cannot
>disable NCP/TCP that easily.
>
>(2) TCP (NCP over TCP) retransmits only missing data, and it can ask for
>retransmit much sooner as it knows what link latency is.  NCP/UDP can only ask
>for complete packet retransmission, and it has no good idea what's link
>latency because there is no ACK from server when it receives request - you can
>only resend after usual link latency + time for process request, so you'll
>wait longer for retransmit, and on retransmit you need to send again complete
>request (which can be 64KB of data if you use 64KB buffer size...)
>
>(3) To avoid problems with retransmits ncpfs uses default buffer size 60KB for
>TCP (SOCK_STREAM), while 1KB for UDP/IPX (it must be multiple of sector size,
>so using 1.4KB is not an option).  So if you read 1 page, you get 1
>request/reply when using TCP, but 4 requests/replies in UDP/IPX.  And as all
>this is fully synchronous, and for today's link latency is dominating factor,
>it will take 4 times longer...
[and (4)]

Well, probably the same reason as NFS over UDP is discouraged. See nfs(5)
section WARNINGS (in short: IP fragment ID can wrap quite fast on Gigabit)



	-`J'
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