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Message-ID: <20070129154518.40b0b3d3@freekitty>
Date:	Mon, 29 Jan 2007 15:45:18 -0800
From:	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@...ux-foundation.org>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Jeff Garzik <jeff@...zik.org>
Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.20-rc6 - sky2 resume breakage

On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 15:04:06 -0800 (PST)
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:

> 
> 
> On Mon, 29 Jan 2007, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > 
> > MSI works fine for almost all systems (except AMD systems where
> > MSI is broken for ALL devices).
> 
> Why do you ignore reality?
> 
> MSI does *not* work fine, exactly because the firmware screws it up.
> 
> The fact that on a "hardware level" it may work is totally irrelevant. The 
> *only* thing that matters is what people actually see.
> 
> "Positivism" may not be a hot philosophy these days any more, but dang, it 
> certainly is better than what you seem to espouse: "in theory things work 
> fine".
> 
> And if you don't like positivism, how about just simple scientific method: 
> a theory is *proven*wrong* by a single observation to the opposite. And we 
> have several people standing up saying that your theory is wrong.
> 
> 		Linus

Why do you insist on maintaining the wrong initialization order
on resume? When I raised the issue, Len brought up that the resume
order did not match spec, but then there has been slow progress
in fixing it (it's buried in -mm tree).





-- 
Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@...ux-foundation.org>
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