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Date:	Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:08:12 -0800
From:	Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@...cle.com>
To:	Dave Jones <davej@...hat.com>
Cc:	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>,
	Nicolas Mailhot <nicolas.mailhot@...oste.net>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Free Linux Driver Development!

On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:06:07 -0500 Dave Jones wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 12:12:58PM -0800, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> 
>  > > There are many out-of-tree drivers (ivtv, lirc, various webcam drivers,
>  > > enhanced USB keyboard handlers...) with merging not planified or taking
>  > > ages.
>  > 
>  > See my above comment about lirc.  As for the others, everyone knows
>  > where we are at, and what the critera is for getting their code into the
>  > tree, so it's not like we are hiding anywhere :)
> 
> The webcam situation has bugged me a few times.  I regularly get reports
> from our users that they buy some new ov5xx based camera, and the in-tree
> driver doesn't work.  The out of tree one is a huge delta, and even
> begat a separate driver for the later chips iirc.
> 
> I contacted the upstream author a number of times to find out why he
> stopped sending updates. No replies.   Just taking his driver and
> sending updates myself seemed kinda rude, but at the same time,
> users are losing out.

Yes, I've contacted him (or one of him :) several times also
since I own one of those not-in-tree webcams...  Always some holdup.

---
~Randy
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