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Message-ID: <45C7C509.6090009@garzik.org>
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 19:00:09 -0500
From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@...zik.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
CC: Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@...cle.com>,
David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] MTD: fix DOC2000/2001/2001PLUS build error
Linus Torvalds wrote:
> I also feel that a lot of people are "advanced" in one area, but not
> necessarily in another. The Netfilter example I gave was one such personal
> gripe of mine. I just feel like I shouldn't need to care! Yeah, I have the
> knowledge, but I *still* want to be baby-fed with just a simple "anybody
> can understand it".
It's a good example. I had a bear of a time with the netfilter kernel
config on my firewall (w/ IPv6 goodness) box, when the generic netfilter
stuff landed. For the first time in a long time, that firewall booted
into a configuration that wouldn't forward+masq packets properly.
> The same is true of the whole SATA/USB/SCSI thing. I know damn well that
> the kernel uses the SCSI layer for USB and SATA, yet I feel that the ATA
> layer does it right, and I just find the USB storage situation to be
> *offensively* bad in this regard. Why the HELL does it have those big
> comments and warnings, when it could just damn well enable SCSI support
> itself?
I think maybe ATA is just lucky. I allowed myself to get bullied into
avoiding 'select', even though I feel the same way as you.
ATA should select scsi-disk but doesn't, for example.
And at some point it becomes a matter of taste: should ATA select
BLOCK, or depend on BLOCK? There are IMO good arguments either way.
Jeff
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