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Message-ID: <45C7C509.6090009@garzik.org>
Date:	Mon, 05 Feb 2007 19:00:09 -0500
From:	Jeff Garzik <jeff@...zik.org>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
CC:	Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@...cle.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] MTD: fix DOC2000/2001/2001PLUS build error

Linus Torvalds wrote:
> I also feel that a lot of people are "advanced" in one area, but not 
> necessarily in another. The Netfilter example I gave was one such personal 
> gripe of mine. I just feel like I shouldn't need to care! Yeah, I have the 
> knowledge, but I *still* want to be baby-fed with just a simple "anybody 
> can understand it".

It's a good example.  I had a bear of a time with the netfilter kernel 
config on my firewall (w/ IPv6 goodness) box, when the generic netfilter 
stuff landed.  For the first time in a long time, that firewall booted 
into a configuration that wouldn't forward+masq packets properly.


> The same is true of the whole SATA/USB/SCSI thing. I know damn well that 
> the kernel uses the SCSI layer for USB and SATA, yet I feel that the ATA 
> layer does it right, and I just find the USB storage situation to be 
> *offensively* bad in this regard. Why the HELL does it have those big 
> comments and warnings, when it could just damn well enable SCSI support 
> itself?

I think maybe ATA is just lucky.  I allowed myself to get bullied into 
avoiding 'select', even though I feel the same way as you.

ATA should select scsi-disk but doesn't, for example.

And at some point it becomes a matter of taste:  should ATA select 
BLOCK, or depend on BLOCK?  There are IMO good arguments either way.

	Jeff


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