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Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0702061550010.8424@woody.linux-foundation.org>
Date:	Tue, 6 Feb 2007 15:55:09 -0800 (PST)
From:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
To:	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org>
cc:	Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@...cle.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] MTD: fix DOC2000/2001/2001PLUS build error



On Tue, 6 Feb 2007, David Woodhouse wrote:
>
> Really, if our config is set up in sensible submenus (as in general it
> _is_), the "see everything" behaviour really isn't bad.

There are two fundamental problems with that statement:

 - no, it really isn't always

   Quite often, our Kconfig files have dependencies that are about where 
   the *code* exists, rather than about some nice hierarchical system.

   Think of it this way: would you use a programming language that didn't 
   allow you anything but totally hierarcical language constructs? No sane 
   person would - because real life isn't hierarchical. Yes, there are 
   many things that are, but not all things are.

   Example: many cryptographic algorithms are in crypto/. But then a lot 
   of them ARE NOT. They are in arch/so-and-so/crypto/ or similar. Notice? 

   NOT HIERARCHICAL.

 - I don't use menus at all. I use the good old textual "make oldconfig". 
   Trust me, I _want_ those irrelevant questions gone. They aren't "grayed 
   out".

So you seem to have this *wish* that real life was different than it is. 
But we aren't hierarchical, and even if we were, it *still* wouldn't work 
the way you want things to work.

		Linus "reality bites" Torvalds
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