linux-kernel - Re: [patch 1/1] PM: Adds remount fs ro at suspend

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Message-Id: <1170848593.9827.24.camel@nigel.suspend2.net>
Date:	Wed, 07 Feb 2007 22:43:13 +1100
From:	Nigel Cunningham <nigel@...el.suspend2.net>
To:	Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@....eng.br>
Cc:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, akuster@...sta.com,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>
Subject: Re: [patch 1/1] PM: Adds remount fs ro at suspend

Hi.

On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 09:25 -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Wed, 07 Feb 2007, Nigel Cunningham wrote:
> > Ok, as far as usage scenario goes, that's fair enough. But as to the
> > solution, I wonder though whether it's making life more complicated than
> > it needs to be. After all, we should also be able to cope okay with
> > having the power suddenly go out. If we can cope with that, cleaning
> > filesystems prior to suspending should be a non-issue.
> 
> We don't cope okay with the power going out, at all.  And as an user case, a
> need for fsck if you do something that is a reasonable use case (unplugging
> devices while suspended) is not okay, either.

Maybe it depends on the filesystem you use. I've used ext3 for 6 or so
years of development on Suspend2, and it's never given me a single
problem, despite the fact that I've sometimes done the equivalent of
pulling the plug without a sync or unmount. I did try XFS at one stage.
It's performance was better, but it did give problems. Nevertheless, I'm
more than happy to make the above claim about ext3.

> > Likewise with changes in hardware. Once hotplugging support is mature,
> > suspending, switching around hardware and resuming should just result in
> > hot[un]plug events.
> 
> Well, if we add *move* events for when someone unplugs a usb stick in one
> port and replugs it in another while the system is in lala-land... maybe :-)
> It would be normal to do it, when dealing with docks.

Isn't that part of the point to having those uuid thingys? I hate them
at the moment (from the point of view of suspend code), but hopefully
they'll end up being nicer to deal with.

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