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Message-Id: <200702082259.47685.dtor@insightbb.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 22:59:46 -0500
From: Dmitry Torokhov <dtor@...ightbb.com>
To: Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>
Cc: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@...ux-foundation.org>,
Jeff Garzik <jeff@...zik.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@...y.org>
Subject: Re: Network: convert network devices to use struct device instead of class_device
On Thursday 08 February 2007 19:56, Greg KH wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 12:29:12PM -0500, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> > On 2/8/07, Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:
> > >On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 07:43:18 -0500
> > >Jeff Garzik <jeff@...zik.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Linux Kernel Mailing List wrote:
> > >> > Gitweb:
> > >http://git.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=43cb76d91ee85f579a69d42bc8efc08bac560278
> > >> > Commit: 43cb76d91ee85f579a69d42bc8efc08bac560278
> > >> > Parent: 2943ecf2ed32632473c06f1975db47a7aa98c10f
> > >> > Author: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...e.de>
> > >> > AuthorDate: Tue Apr 9 12:14:34 2002 -0700
> > >> > Committer: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...e.de>
> > >> > CommitDate: Wed Feb 7 10:37:11 2007 -0800
> > >> >
> > >> > Network: convert network devices to use struct device instead of
> > >class_device
> > >> >
> > >> > This lets the network core have the ability to handle
> > >suspend/resume
> > >> > issues, if it wants to.
> > >
> > >It fixes a non-problem. I would like to see the network core suspend/resume
> > >proposal as well. Last time I examined doing network core suspend help,
> > >the problem was that the physical device suspend was called before the
> > >class device. It is not clear how this change would help.
> >
> > If physical devices are registered before class devices then when
> > suspending class devices are naturally suspended first. It is still
> > not clear to me why we need to convert everythign to struct device, I
> > believe I've shown (with patches) that it is possible to integrate
> > struct class_device into PM framework and avoid reshuffling half of
> > the kernel code.
>
> I don't want to have two separate device trees in the kernel (well, one
> big device tree and a bunch of little class_device trees.) The code
> duplication in the class_device code is just too much, and I get
> questions all the time as to what the differences are.
>
While duplication of code is a real concern my worry is constant fattening
of struct device. For example most physical devices do not interface
directly with userspace but every single one of them now has dev_t.
Former class_devices do not need suspend/resume early framework either.
And so on, and so forth.
> With these slow and gradual changes, we are getting a true, unified,
> device tree, and it will reduce the amount of code and complexity we
> need to maintain and fix in the driver core itself.
>
> And it should also alow for proper power management functionality, using
> the changes that Linus put into the driver core about 8 months ago.
>
> Don't worry, I have input patches queued up next for you Dmitry :)
>
;)
--
Dmitry
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