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Message-ID: <45CE5AAE.7000708@imap.cc>
Date:	Sun, 11 Feb 2007 00:52:14 +0100
From:	Tilman Schmidt <tilman@...p.cc>
To:	Willy Tarreau <w@....eu>
CC:	Jeff Garzik <jeff@...zik.org>, nigel@...el.suspend2.net,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: NAK new drivers without proper power management?

Am 10.02.2007 07:43 schrieb Willy Tarreau:
> On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 07:25:34PM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote:

>>>> On Sat, 2007-02-10 at 08:57 +1100, Nigel Cunningham wrote:
>>>>> Can we start to NAK new drivers that don't have proper power management
>>>>> implemented?
[...]
>> Certainly we should ask for it, but it shouldn't be a merge-stopper.
> 
> I think we should even proceed in the opposite direction : refuse to suspend
> if at least one driver does not support the feature, and enumerate the
> faulty drivers on the console. While I agree that a machine which resumes
> in a bad state is not funny at all to debug, at least when the user expects
> his notebook to suspend and sees that it refuses, he can complain about the
> drivers which do not support it, and can even unload them first if unneeded.

I agree wholeheartedly. That's the correct way to handle this.

-- 
Tilman Schmidt                          E-Mail: tilman@...p.cc
Bonn, Germany
- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
  In practice, there is.


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