linux-kernel - Re: [take36 10/10] kevent: Kevent based generic AIO.

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Message-ID: <20070212132421.GA7578@2ka.mipt.ru>
Date:	Mon, 12 Feb 2007 16:24:21 +0300
From:	Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@....mipt.ru>
To:	Alan <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc:	Andi Kleen <ak@...e.de>, David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Ulrich Drepper <drepper@...hat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...l.org>, netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
	Zach Brown <zach.brown@...cle.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	Chase Venters <chase.venters@...entec.com>,
	Johann Borck <johann.borck@...sedata.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Jeff Garzik <jeff@...zik.org>,
	Jamal Hadi Salim <hadi@...erus.ca>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [take36 10/10] kevent: Kevent based generic AIO.

On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 01:12:57PM +0000, Alan (alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk) wrote:
> > I'm sure others would want them then for their favourite system call combo
> > too. If they were really useful it might make more sense to have a batch() 
> > system call that works for arbitary calls, but I'm not convinced yet
> > it's even needed. It would be certainly ugly.
> 
> batch() would possibly make a lot of sense in terms of the fibril/thread
> based removal for the need for all the AIO stuff, just to provide a
> natural way to group and order sequences of synchronous operations into
> asynchronous groups.
> 
> I am extremely sceptical about the need for aio_sendfile_path since with
> sendfile/sendpath hacking around there didn't seem to be much gain.
> 
> I'm even more sceptical of the header buffer stuff as while other OS's do
> that as a hack to make TCP packetising work we simply fixed the root
> problem with TCP_CORK

Well, that does not matter that much - that syscall is an example of how
kevent AIO state machine works - it trivially allows to have async
open/send/sendfile/close like aio_senfile_path.

I would remove header too (it was not there in the first release, added
on request), but the whole idea of async open/send/close seems natural 
for web-like workloads, when user should not even care about proper state 
machine.

Having batch() mode would be good too - with kevent state machine it is
quite trivially: 
req = kaio_add_call(NULL, first_call)
kaio_append_call(req, second_call);
kaio_append_call(req, third_call);
...
kaio_schedule_req(req);

Yes, state machine handling requires additional code, but when it ends
up in faster processing implementation complexities deserve its price.

> Alan

-- 
	Evgeniy Polyakov
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