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Message-ID: <20070213121213.GI18101@elf.ucw.cz>
Date:	Tue, 13 Feb 2007 13:12:13 +0100
From:	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
To:	Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@....eng.br>
Cc:	Nigel Cunningham <nigel@...el.suspend2.net>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, akuster@...sta.com,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>
Subject: Re: [patch 1/1] PM: Adds remount fs ro at suspend

Hi!

> > Why do you think remounting filesystems is necessary? Are you getting
> > problems with some particular filesystem?
> 
> No.  But anything in a removable device neets to be either remounted
> read-only or unmounted if that is at all possible, because the user could
> unplug it.  It is of course, sync'd anyway, so if the remount/umount fails,
> no corruption should happen...  but the fs will be dirty, etc.
> 
> It can get very ugly when you factor in docks and removable bays. It's not
> just USB/firewire mass-storage devices and memory cards.  And there is the
> patological cases where the user suspends with the device in one port, and
> resumes with the device in another port.
> 
> I feel userspace *can* do all that needs to be done, but we are (currently)
> very bad at it.

Fix it in userspace, then. fsck when you unplug disk while suspended
should serve as a reminder to fix that userspace :-).

(And yes, you may need some kernel support to do it nicely; hopefully
same kernel support that will solve users unplugging disks without
umount.)
									Pavel
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