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Message-ID: <20070214121700.GB23857@elf.ucw.cz>
Date:	Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:17:00 +0100
From:	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
To:	Bill Davidsen <davidsen@....com>
Cc:	Jakub Jelinek <jakub@...hat.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ANN] Userspace M-on-N threading model implementation. Alpha release.

Hi!

> >>How does that work? Switching between kernel threads requires going into 
> >>the kernel, user level thread switches are all done in user mode.
> >>
> >>Do you have some way to change o/s threads w/o going into the kernel?
> >>    
> >
> >But going into kernel is not very expensive on Linux.
> >
> >On the other side, the overhead you need to add for every single syscall
> >that might block for the M:N threads and the associated complications
> >which make it far harder to conform to POSIX IMHO far outweight the costs
> >of going into the kernel for a context switch.
> 
> That really wasn't my question, Arjan said that switching real threads 
> wasn't a context switch in the hardware sense, and I was asking if I 
> missed something. It may be cheap, but it would seem to be a context 
> switch none-the-less.

It is not reloading %cr3.

									Pavel
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