linux-kernel - Re: [patch 05/11] syslets: core code

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Message-ID: <20070216160525.GA21160@2ka.mipt.ru>
Date:	Fri, 16 Feb 2007 19:05:25 +0300
From:	Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@....mipt.ru>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@....com.au>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Ulrich Drepper <drepper@...hat.com>,
	Zach Brown <zach.brown@...cle.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@...ck.org>,
	Suparna Bhattacharya <suparna@...ibm.com>,
	Davide Libenzi <davidel@...ilserver.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
Subject: Re: [patch 05/11] syslets: core code

On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 07:54:22AM -0800, Linus Torvalds (torvalds@...ux-foundation.org) wrote:
> > Interfaces can be created and destroyed - they do not affect overall
> > system design in anyway (well, if they do, something is broken).
> 
> I'm sorry, but you've obviously never maintained any piece of software 
> that actually has users.

Strong. But saying for others usualy tends to show own problems.

> As long as you think that interfaces can change, this discussion is 
> pointless. 

That is too cool phrase to be heared - if you will make me a favour and
reread what was written you will (hopefully) detect that there were no
words about interfaces being changed after put into the wild - talk was 
only about time when system is designed and implemented, and there is
time for discussion about its rough edges - if its design is good, then
interface can be changed in a moment without any problem - that is what
we see with syslets right now - they are designed and implemented (the
formed was done several years ago), and it is time to shape its edges -
like change userspace API - it is easy, but you do not (want/like to) 
see that.

> So go away, ponder things.

But my above words are too lame for self-hearing Olympus liver.
Definitely.

> 		Linus

-- 
	Evgeniy Polyakov
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