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Message-ID: <20070218113259.GB100@tv-sign.ru>
Date:	Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:32:59 +0300
From:	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...sign.ru>
To:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>
Cc:	ego@...ibm.com, akpm@...l.org, paulmck@...ibm.com, mingo@...e.hu,
	vatsa@...ibm.com, dipankar@...ibm.com,
	venkatesh.pallipadi@...el.com, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH(Experimental) 0/4] Freezer based Cpu-hotplug

On 02/18, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>
> On Sunday, 18 February 2007 00:42, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > On 02/17, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > >
> > > On Saturday, 17 February 2007 22:34, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 	static inline int is_user_space(struct task_struct *p)
> > > > 	{
> > > > 		return p->mm && !(p->flags & PF_BORROWED_MM);
> > > > 	}
> > > > 
> > > > This doesn't look right. First, an exiting task has ->mm == NULL after
> > > > do_exit()->exit_mm(). Probably not a problem. However, PF_BORROWED_MM
> > > > check is racy without task_lock(), so we can have a false positive as
> > > > well. Is it ok? We can freeze aio_wq prematurely.
> > > 
> > > Right now aio_wq is not freezeable (PF_NOFREEZE).
> > 
> > Right now yes, but we are going to change this?
> 
> Well, is there any more reliable (and not racy) method of differentiating
> between kernel threads and user space processes?

Not that I know of. At least, we can take task_lock() to really rule out
kernel threads at FREEZER_USER_SPACE stage.

Oleg.

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