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Message-ID: <45DA97E2.9050707@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Date:	Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:10:34 +0530
From:	Vaidyanathan Srinivasan <svaidy@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
To:	balbir@...ibm.com
CC:	Paul Menage <menage@...gle.com>, vatsa@...ibm.com,
	ckrm-tech@...ts.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	xemul@...ru, linux-mm@...ck.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, devel@...nvz.org
Subject: Re: [ckrm-tech] [RFC][PATCH][2/4] Add RSS accounting and control



Balbir Singh wrote:
> Vaidyanathan Srinivasan wrote:
>> Balbir Singh wrote:
>>> Paul Menage wrote:
>>>> On 2/19/07, Balbir Singh <balbir@...ibm.com> wrote:
>>>>>> More worrisome is the potential for use-after-free.  What prevents the
>>>>>> pointer at mm->container from referring to freed memory after we're dropped
>>>>>> the lock?
>>>>>>
>>>>> The container cannot be freed unless all tasks holding references to it are
>>>>> gone,
>>>> ... or have been moved to other containers. If you're not holding
>>>> task->alloc_lock or one of the container mutexes, there's nothing to
>>>> stop the task being moved to another container, and the container
>>>> being deleted.
>>>>
>>>> If you're in an RCU section then you can guarantee that the container
>>>> (that you originally read from the task) and its subsystems at least
>>>> won't be deleted while you're accessing them, but for accounting like
>>>> this I suspect that's not enough, since you need to be adding to the
>>>> accounting stats on the correct container. I think you'll need to hold
>>>> mm->container_lock for the duration of memctl_update_rss()
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>> Yes, that sounds like the correct thing to do.
>>>
>> Accounting accuracy will anyway be affected when a process is migrated
>> while it is still allocating pages.  Having a lock here does not
>> necessarily improve the accounting accuracy.  Charges from the old
>> container would have to be moved to the new container before deletion
>> which implies all tasks have already left the container and no
>> mm_struct is holding a pointer to it.
>>
>> The only condition that will break our code will be if the container
>> pointer becomes invalid while we are updating stats.  This can be
>> prevented by RCU section as mentioned by Paul.  I believe explicit
>> lock and unlock may not provide additional benefit here.
>>
> 
> Yes, if the container pointer becomes invalid, then consider the following
> scenario
> 
> 1. Use RCU, get a reference to the container
> 2. All tasks/mm's move to newer container (and the accounting information
>     moves)
> 3. Container is RCU deleted
> 4. We still charge the older container that is going to be deleted soon
> 5. Release RCU
> 6. RCU garbage collects (callback runs)
> 
> We end up charging/uncharging a soon to be deleted container, that
> is not good.
> 
> What did I miss?

You are right.  We should go with your read/write lock method.  Later
we can evaluate if using an RCU and then fixing the wrong charge will
work better or worse.

--Vaidy

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