linux-kernel - Re: [patch 00/13] Syslets, "Threadlets", generic AIO support, v3

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Message-ID: <20070223121751.GA6626@elte.hu>
Date:	Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:17:51 +0100
From:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
To:	"Michael K. Edwards" <medwards.linux@...il.com>
Cc:	Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@....mipt.ru>,
	Ulrich Drepper <drepper@...hat.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@....com.au>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Zach Brown <zach.brown@...cle.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Suparna Bhattacharya <suparna@...ibm.com>,
	Davide Libenzi <davidel@...ilserver.org>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@...cle.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
Subject: Re: [patch 00/13] Syslets, "Threadlets", generic AIO support, v3


* Michael K. Edwards <medwards.linux@...il.com> wrote:

> On 2/22/07, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu> wrote:

> > maybe it will, maybe it wont. Lets try? There is no true difference 
> > between having a 'request structure' that represents the current 
> > state of the HTTP connection plus a statemachine that moves that 
> > request between various queues, and a 'kernel stack' that goes in 
> > and out of runnable state and carries its processing state in its 
> > stack - other than the amount of RAM they take. (the kernel stack is 
> > 4K at a minimum - so with a million outstanding requests they would 
> > use up 4 GB of RAM. With 20k outstanding requests it's 80 MB of RAM 
> > - that's acceptable.)
> 
> This is a fundamental misconception. [...]

> The scheduler, on the other hand, has to blow and reload all of the 
> hidden state associated with force-loading the PC and wherever your 
> architecture keeps its TLS (maybe not the whole TLB, but not nothing, 
> either). [...]

please read up a bit more about how the Linux scheduler works. Maybe 
even read the code if in doubt? In any case, please direct kernel newbie 
questions to http://kernelnewbies.org/, not linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org.

	Ingo
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