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Date:	Sun, 4 Mar 2007 17:17:29 -0800
From:	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>
To:	Matt Mackall <mpm@...enic.com>
Cc:	Johannes Berg <johannes@...solutions.net>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	yi.zhu@...el.com, jketreno@...ux.intel.com,
	linux-wireless <linux-wireless@...r.kernel.org>, akpm@...l.org
Subject: Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 06:25:50PM -0600, Matt Mackall wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 12:39:24AM +0100, Johannes Berg wrote:
> > [adding linux-wireless to CC]
> > 
> > On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 16:08 -0600, Matt Mackall wrote:
> > > Recent kernels are having troubles with wireless for me. Two seemingly
> > > related problems:
> > 
> > I don't think they are related actually.
> > 
> > > a) NetworkManager seems oblivious to the existence of my IPW2200
> > 
> > This is due to the recent sysfs restructuring I think. IIRC the fix is
> > to upgrade hal to a current git version.
> 
> If that's the cause, the fix is to back out whatever was done to break
> userspace. Breaking userspace is not ok. Upgrading from 2.6.x to
> 2.6.x+1 should not entail replacing substantial parts of userspace,
> especially with NOT-EVEN-FRAKKING-RELEASED-YET CODE. 

I should not have broken any userspace if CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED is
enabled with that patch.  If that is enabled, and that patch still
causes problems, please let me know.

thanks,

greg k-h
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