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Message-Id: <1173353824.9438.15.camel@twins>
Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 12:37:04 +0100
From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@...redi.hu>
Cc: npiggin@...e.de, akpm@...ux-foundation.org, mingo@...e.hu,
linux-mm@...ck.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
benh@...nel.crashing.org, jdike@...toit.com, hugh@...itas.com,
torvalds@...ux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] mm: fix page_mkclean() vs non-linear vmas
On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 12:21 +0100, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> > Partial revert of commit: 204ec841fbea3e5138168edbc3a76d46747cc987
> >
> > Non-linear vmas aren't properly handled by page_mkclean() and fixing that
> > would result in linear scans of all related non-linear vmas per page_mkclean()
> > invocation.
> >
> > This is deemed too costly, hence re-instate the msync scan for non-linear vmas.
> >
> > However this can lead to double IO:
> >
> > - pages get instanciated with RO mapping
> > - page takes write fault, and gets marked with PG_dirty
> > - page gets tagged for writeout and calls page_mkclean()
> > - page_mkclean() fails to find the dirty pte (and clean it)
> > - writeout happens and PG_dirty gets cleared.
> > - user calls msync, the dirty pte is found and the page marked with PG_dirty
> > - the page gets writen out _again_ even though its not re-dirtied.
> >
> > To minimize this reset the protection when creating a nonlinear vma.
> >
> > I'm not at all happy with this, but plain disallowing
> > remap_file_pages on bdis without BDI_CAP_NO_WRITEBACK seems to
> > offend some people, hence restrict it to root only.
>
> Root only for !BDI_CAP_NO_WRITEBACK mappings doesn't make sense
> because:
>
> - just encourages insecure applications
>
> - there are no current users that want this and presumable no future
> uses either
AFAIK no other OS does this against regular filesystems (hear-say)
> - it's a maintenance burden: I'll have to layer the m/ctime update
> patch on top of this
>
> - the only pro for this has been that Nick thinks it cool ;)
>
> I think the proper way to deal with this is to
>
> - allow BDI_CAP_NO_WRITEBACK (tmpfs/ramfs) uses, makes database
> people happy
And UML once the remap_file_pages_prot() stuff is merged.
> - for !BDI_CAP_NO_WRITEBACK emulate using do_mmap_pgoff(), should be
> trivial, no userspace ABI breakage
I can live with that.
However this still leaves the non-linear reclaim (Nick pointed it out as
a potential DoS and other people have corroborated this). I have no idea
on that to do about that.
Oracle seems to mlock these things anyway, but UML surely would not.
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