linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] chaostables

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Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0703091106280.8799@yvahk01.tjqt.qr>
Date:	Fri, 9 Mar 2007 11:19:26 +0100 (MET)
From:	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@...ux01.gwdg.de>
To:	Amin Azez <azez@...mechanic.net>
cc:	Patrick McHardy <kaber@...sh.net>,
	James Morris <jmorris@...ei.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Netfilter Developer Mailing List 
	<netfilter-devel@...ts.netfilter.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] chaostables

Hello,

On Mar 9 2007 09:35, Amin Azez wrote:
>* Jan Engelhardt wrote, On 08/03/07 20:26:
>> xt_portscan needs to keep track of what packets the machine has already 
>> seen. So on the first SYN, the connection is marked with "1". (Then we 
>> send our SYN-ACK... and the connection turns ESTABLISHED.) The next 
>> packet that is received will be an ACK or an RST. But it must come 
>> _exactly after_ the SYN, so just using --tcp-flags ACK will not work. A 
>> state which can be remembered is required. For that, an automaton is 
>> used, whose state is saved in the connection mark.
>
>There would me more point in having this as a new match if it didn't
>trample on the connection mark, but used it's own slot or flag-bit.

Adding a member to the ip_conntrack/nf_conntrack and sk_buff struct would
increase the struct sizes, and that would penalize users who do not intend
to use xt_portscan.

I do not see why the packet/connection marks should not be used to record
additional information. After all, that is what users use marks for.
xt_portscan can be precisely configured how to set its marks (mask is
supported), so that it only takes away 4 bits of the 32-bit connection
mark and 1 bit of the 32-bit packet mark.

Almost never I required connection marking myself except for this
portscanning automaton and perhaps a little MARK here and there for
finely-tuned SNAT. Again, things might look different on your side(s).
QoS, while primarily using CLASSIFY, is one point where MARK can be used.
I would assume that those who use xt_portscan should be fine with the
remaining 24 bits.

Thank you,

Jan
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