linux-kernel - Re: [RFC][PATCH 6/7] Account for the number of tasks within container

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Message-ID: <45F3BF9C.8070305@sw.ru>
Date:	Sun, 11 Mar 2007 11:36:44 +0300
From:	Pavel Emelianov <xemul@...ru>
To:	Paul Menage <menage@...gle.com>
CC:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...l.org>,
	Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@...ibm.com>,
	Balbir Singh <balbir@...ibm.com>, devel@...nvz.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	containers@...ts.osdl.org, Kirill Korotaev <dev@...ru>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 6/7] Account for the number of tasks within container

Paul Menage wrote:
> On 3/6/07, Pavel Emelianov <xemul@...ru> wrote:
>> The idea is:
>>
>> Task may be "the entity that allocates the resources" and "the
>> entity that is a resource allocated".
>>
>> When task is the first entity it may move across containers
>> (that is implemented in your patches). When task is a resource
>> it shouldn't move across containers like files or pages do.
>>
>> More generally - allocated resources hold reference to original
>> container till they die. No resource migration is performed.
>>
>> Did I express my idea cleanly?
> 
> Yes, but I disagree with the premise. The title of your patch is
> "Account for the number of tasks within container", but that's not
> what the subsystem does, it accounts for the number of forks within
> the container that aren't directly accompanied by an exit.
> 
> Ideally, resources like files and pages would be able to follow tasks
> as well. The reason that files and pages aren't easily migrated from
> one container to another is that there could be sharing involved;
> figuring out the sharing can be expensive, and it's not clear what to
> do if two users are in different containers.
> 
> But in the case of a task count, there are no such issues with
> sharing, so it seems to me to be more sensible (and more efficient) to
> just limit the number of tasks in a container.
> 
> i.e. when moving a task into a container or forking a task within a
> container, increment the count; when moving a task out of a container
> or when it exits, decrement the count.

Sounds reasonable.
I'll take this into account when I make the next iteration.
Thanks.

> With your approach, if you were to set the task limit of an empty
> container A to 1, and then move a process P from B into A, P would be
> able to fork a new child, since the "task count" would be 0 (as P was
> being charged to B still). Surely the fact that there's 1 process in A
> should prevent P from forking?
> 
> Paul
> 

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