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Message-ID: <20070313140129.GB92373@muc.de>
Date:	Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:01:29 +0100
From:	Andi Kleen <ak@....de>
To:	Zachary Amsden <zach@...are.com>
Cc:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...l.org>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@...tcorp.com.au>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@...p.org>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@...s-sol.org>,
	Dan Hecht <dhecht@...are.com>, Dan Arai <arai@...are.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...l.org>,
	Virtualization Mailing List <virtualization@...ts.osdl.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Daniel Walker <dwalker@...sta.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/9] Sched clock paravirt op fix.patch

On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 06:54:24PM -0800, Zachary Amsden wrote:
> The custom_sched_clock hook is broken.  The result from sched_clock needs to be
> in nanoseconds, not in CPU cycles.  The TSC is insufficient for this purpose,
> because TSC is poorly defined in a virtual environment, and mostly represents
> real world time instead of scheduled process time (which can be interrupted
> without notice when a virtual machine is descheduled).
> 
> To make the scheduler consistent, we must expose a different nature of time,
> that is scheduled time.  So deprecate this custom_sched_clock hack and turn it
> into a paravirt-op, as it should have been all along.  This allows the tsc.c
> code which converts cycles to nanoseconds to be shared by all paravirt-ops
> backends.
> 
> It is unfortunate to add a new paravirt-op, but this is a very distinct
> abstraction which is clearly different for all virtual machine implementations,
> and it gets rid of an ugly indirect function which I ashamedly admit I hacked
> in to try to get this to work earlier, and then even got in the wrong units.
> 
> Please apply.

I think it's better to remove this completely and not allow paravirt
to hook into sched_clock.  After all a hypervisor stealing time is no
different from interrupts stealing time and we don't try to handle
that either. 

I will remove the custom hook.

-Andi
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