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Message-ID: <45F80FE1.3030603@goop.org>
Date:	Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:08:17 -0700
From:	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@...p.org>
To:	Lennart Sorensen <lsorense@...lub.uwaterloo.ca>
CC:	Dan Hecht <dhecht@...are.com>, dwalker@...sta.com,
	cpufreq@...ts.linux.org.uk,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Con Kolivas <kernel@...ivas.org>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@...s-sol.org>,
	Virtualization Mailing List <virtualization@...ts.osdl.org>,
	john stultz <johnstul@...ibm.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
Subject: Re: Stolen and degraded time and schedulers

Lennart Sorensen wrote:
> How would you deal with something like a pentium 4 HT processor where
> you may run slower just because you got scheduled on the sibling of a
> cpu that happens to run something else needing the same execution units
> you do, causing you to get delayed more, even though the cpu is running
> full speed and nothing else is trying to use your "cpu"?  I don't think
> there is any way to know what the real impact of two processes on a HT
> cpu have on each other.
>
> Interesting goal.  Not sure it can be done.

You're right.  That's a very tough case.  I don't know if there's any
way to do a reasonable estimate of the slowdown.  You could handwave it
and say "if both threads are running a process, then apply an X scaling
factor to their rate of progress".  That might be enough.

    J
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