linux-kernel - Re: RSDL v0.31

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Message-ID: <45FC23C0.5070903@seclark.us>
Date:	Sat, 17 Mar 2007 13:22:08 -0400
From:	Stephen Clark <Stephen.Clark@...lark.us>
To:	Mark Hahn <hahn@...aster.ca>
CC:	Con Kolivas <kernel@...ivas.org>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: RSDL v0.31

Mark Hahn wrote:

>>So in an attempt to summarise the situation, what are the advantages of RSDL
>>over mainline.
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>>Fairness
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>why do you think fairness is good, especially always good?
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>>Starvation free
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>even starvation is sometimes a good thing - there's a place for processes
>that only use the CPU if it is otherwise idle.  that is, they are
>deliberately starved all the rest of the time.
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>>Much lower and bound latencies
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>in an average sense?  also, under what circumstances does this actually
>matter?  (please don't offer something like RT audio on an overloaded machine-
>that's operator error, not something to design for.)
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>>Deterministic
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>not a bad thing, but how does this make itself apparent and of value 
>to the user?  I think everyone is extremely comfortable with non-determinism
>(stemming from networks, caches, interleaved workloads, etc)
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>>Better interactivity for the majority of cases.
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>how is this measured?  is this statement really just a reiteration of 
>the latency claim?
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>>Now concentrating on the very last aspect since that seems to be the sticking
>>point.
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>nah, I think the fairness and latency claims are the real issues.
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I guess I wonder what is wrong with the current scheduler? I am running 
2.6.20.2 on a whitebook
laptop with a core 2 duo 1.86ghz 2gb of mem with an intel 945 shared 
memory graphics processor.
I am currently running X with beryl have vncserver connected to my main 
system, which I am
using to write this email, I am running also firefox and both of ingo 
test programs. I also am running
a make -j4 on a kernel rebuild without having any pauses or any problem 
doing anything interactively.

So again what does this new scheduler fix?

Steve

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