linux-kernel - Re: RSDL v0.31

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Message-ID: <20070317074506.GA13685@elte.hu>
Date:	Sat, 17 Mar 2007 08:45:06 +0100
From:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
To:	Nicholas Miell <nmiell@...cast.net>
Cc:	Mike Galbraith <efault@....de>, Con Kolivas <kernel@...ivas.org>,
	ck@....kolivas.org, Al Boldi <a1426z@...ab.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: RSDL v0.31

* Nicholas Miell <nmiell@...cast.net> wrote:

> The X people have plans for how to go about fixing this, [...]

then we'll first have wait for those X changes to at least be done in a 
minimal manner so that they can be tested for real with RSDL. (is it 
_really_ due to that? Or will X regress forever once we switch to RSDL?) 
We cannot regress the scheduling of a workload as important as "X mixed 
with CPU-intense tasks". And "in theory this should be fixed if X is 
fixed" does not cut it. X is pretty much _the_ most important thing to 
optimize the interactive behavior of a Linux scheduler for. Also, 
paradoxically, it is precisely the improvement of _X_ workloads that 
RSDL argues with.

this regression has to be fixed before RSDL can be merged, simply 
because it is a pretty negative effect that goes beyond any of the 
visible positive improvements that RSDL brings over the current 
scheduler. If it is better to fix X, then X has to be fixed _first_, at 
least in form of a prototype patch that can be _tested_, and then the 
result has to be validated against RSDL.

	Ingo
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