linux-kernel - Re: [patch 4/6] mm: merge populate and nopage into fault (fixes nonlinear)

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Message-ID: <20070318025010.GA1671@wotan.suse.de>
Date:	Sun, 18 Mar 2007 03:50:10 +0100
From:	Nick Piggin <npiggin@...e.de>
To:	Blaisorblade <blaisorblade@...oo.it>
Cc:	Bill Irwin <bill.irwin@...cle.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Memory Management <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 4/6] mm: merge populate and nopage into fault (fixes nonlinear)

On Sat, Mar 17, 2007 at 01:17:00PM +0100, Blaisorblade wrote:
> On Tuesday 13 March 2007 02:19, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 12:01:13AM +0100, Blaisorblade wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 07 March 2007 11:02, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > > > > Yeah, tmpfs/shm segs are what I was thinking about. If UML can live
> > > > > with that as well, then I think it might be a good option.
> > > >
> > > > Oh, hmm.... if you can truncate these things then you still need to
> > > > force unmap so you still need i_mmap_nonlinear.
> > >
> > > Well, we don't need truncate(), but MADV_REMOVE for memory hotunplug,
> > > which is way similar I guess.
> > >
> > > About the restriction to tmpfs, I have just discovered
> > > '[PATCH] mm: tracking shared dirty pages' (commit
> > > d08b3851da41d0ee60851f2c75b118e1f7a5fc89), which already partially
> > > conflicts with remap_file_pages for file-based mmaps (and that's fully
> > > fine, for now).
> > >
> > > Even if UML does not need it, till now if there is a VMA protection and a
> > > page hasn't been remapped with remap_file_pages, the VMA protection is
> > > used (just because it makes sense).
> > >
> > > However, it is only used when the PTE is first created - we can never
> > > change protections on a VMA  - so it vma_wants_writenotify() is true (on
> > > all file-based and on no shmfs based mapping, right?), and we
> > > write-protect the VMA, it will always be write-protected.
> >
> > Yes, I believe that is the case, however I wonder if that is going to be
> > a problem for you to distinguish between write faults for clean writable
> > ptes, and write faults for readonly ptes?
> I wouldn't be able to distinguish them, but am I going to get write faults for 
> clean ptes when vma_wants_writenotify() is false (as seems to be for tmpfs)? 
> I guess not.
> 
> For tmpfs pages, clean writable PTEs are mapped as writable so they won't give 
> any problem, since vma_wants_writenotify() is false for tmpfs. Correct?

Yes, that should be the case. So would this mean that nonlinear protections
don't work on regular files? I guess that's OK if Oracle and UML both use
tmpfs/shm?

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