Message-ID: <4603D281.1000101@hitachi.com>
Date:	Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:13:37 +0900
From:	"Kawai, Hidehiro" <hidehiro.kawai.ez@...achi.com>
To:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	kernel list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>, Robin Holt <holt@....com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@...achi.com>,
	sugita <yumiko.sugita.yf@...achi.com>,
	Satoshi OSHIMA <soshima@...hat.com>,
	Hideo AOKI <haoki@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] coredump: core dump masking support v4

Hi,
Thank you for your kind comments.

I'm still discussing the answer with my senior colleagues, so please
wait a few days.  I think I can reply at the beginning of next week.

Best regards,
-- 
Hidehiro Kawai
Hitachi, Ltd., Systems Development Laboratory


Andrew Morton wrote:

> On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 13:41:30 +0900
> "Kawai, Hidehiro" <hidehiro.kawai.ez@...achi.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>>This patch series is version 4 of the core dump masking feature,
>>which provides a per-process flag not to dump anonymous shared
>>memory segments.
> 
> 
> First up, please convince us that this problem cannot be solved in
> userspace.  Note that we now support dumping core over a pipe to a
> userspace application which can perform filtering such as this (see
> Documentation/sysctl/kernel.txt:core_pattern).
> 
> 
> Assuming that your argument is successful...
> 
> - The unpleasing trylock in proc_coredump_omit_anon_shared_write() is
>   there, I believe, to handle the case where a coredump is presently in
>   progress.  We don't want to change the filtering rule while the dump is
>   happening.
> 
>   What I suggest you do instead is to take a copy of
>   mm->coredump_omit_anon_shared into a local variable with one single read
>   per coredump.  Pass that local down into all the callees which need to
>   see it.  That way, no locking is needed.
> 
> - These games we're playing with the atomicity of the bitfields in the
>   mm_struct need to go away.
> 
>   First up, please prepare a standalone patch which removes
>   mm_struct.dumpable and adds `unsigned long mm_struct.flags'.  Include a
>   comment telling people that they must use atomic bitops (set_bit, clear_bit) on
>   mm_struct.flags.
> 
>   Reimplement the current three-value dumpable silliness using two or
>   three separate flags in mm_struct.flags.  Of course, this design means
>   that there will be tiny timing windows where the value of these two or
>   three flags have intermediate, invalid states.  Please take care of those
>   little windows and document how you did so.  I expect a suitable approach
>   would be to set and clear the flags in a suitable order, so that if a
>   race _does_ happen, the results are benign.
> 
> - Once that is done, you're ready to think about your new functionality. 
>   Start out with 
> 
> 	#define MM_FLAG_COREDUMP_OMIT_ANON_SHARED	(1 << 3)
> 
>   or whatever, and it all becomes easy.
> 
> - Finally, the code as you have it here is very specific to your specific
>   requirement: don't dump shared memory segments.
> 
>   But if we're going to implement in-kernel core-dump filtering of this
>   nature, we should design it extensibly, even if we don't actually
>   implement those extensions at this time.
> 
>   Because other people might (reasonably) wish to omit anonymous memory,
>   or private mappings, or file-backed VMAs, or whatever.
> 
>   So maybe /proc/pid/coredump_omit_anon_shared should become
>   /proc/pid/core_dumpfilter, which is a carefully documented bitmask.
> 
> 


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